Eighties Cars at the 2018 Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale

As always, the January auction at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale provided some interesting fodder for commentary. I’ll concentrate on the at least fairly stock 1980s cars and trucks that sold and add some of my opinions—I’ll leave the motorcycles and automobilia to others. Eighties vehicles were reasonably present at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale: about 6% of the 1,678 relevant lots.

Monday, January 15th:

  • 1988 red Pontiac Fiero GT coupe with tan vinyl seats, an L44 135 bhp 2.8 liter/173 cubic inch V6 with fuel injection, and a five-speed manual—a $4,200 hammer price marks the usual ignominious beginning for eighties vehicles at this auction.
  • 1987 white Jaguar XJS coupe with gray leather seats, an HE 262 bhp 5.3 liter/326 cubic inch V12 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 92,000 miles—$5,500
  • 1987 tan/brown two-tone Chevrolet K5 Blazer custom SUV with tan seats, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$13,500
  • 1986 medium gray metallic Chevrolet Corvette hatchback coupe with medium gray leather seats, an L98 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 34,000 miles—$8,200
  • 1985 red Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible with both tops, tan seats, a 155 bhp 3.8 liter/234 cubic inch V8 with Bosch Jetronic fuel injection, an automatic, and 62,000 miles—$10,000
  • 1985 white BMW 325ix custom coupe with black leather seats, a 3.2 liter inline six, and a five-speed manual—$27,000
  • 1980 white Chevrolet Camaro Z28 coupe with carmine vinyl seats, an LM1 190 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with a Rochester four-barrel carburetor, a four-speed manual, and 75,000 miles. At $12,000, the first vehicle in this auction to meet my criteria for serious 1980s collectability of original cars or trucks: selling for equal to or above its original base list price. I’ll mark these vehicles in bold green.
  • 1987 blue AM General Humvee SUV with a blue interior, a 6.2 liter diesel V8, an automatic, and 24,000 miles—$11,000
  • 1988 black BMW M6 coupe with gray leather seats, an M88/3 256 bhp 3.5 liter/211 cubic inch inline six with Bosch Motronic fuel injection, and a five-speed—$13,000
  • 1988 red Mercedes-Benz 560SL convertible with a black convertible top, a hard top, palomino leather seats, a 227 bhp 5.5 liter/338 cubic inch V8 with Bosch KE-Jetronic fuel injection, an automatic, and 59,000 miles—$25,500
  • 1986 red Jeep CJ-7 mild custom SUV with gray seats, a 115 bhp 4.2 liter/258 cubic inch inline six with a Carter two-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—$15,500
  • 1980 white Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am Pace Car coupe with oyster cloth seats, a 210 bhp 4.9 liter/301 cubic inch V8 with Rochester four-barrel carburetor and turbocharger, an automatic, and 16,0oo miles—$20,000
  • 1988 magenta GMC Sierra 1500 custom pickup truck with a reddish brown cloth bench seat, a 210 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with throttle body fuel injection, an automatic, and 93,000 miles—$16,500 for this Boyd Coddington-designed custom.
  • 1983 blue Nissan 720 King Cab pickup truck with a blue interior, a Z24 103 bhp 2.4 liter/146 cubic inch inline four, and a five-speed manual—$9,000

Tuesday, January 16th:

  • 1985 white Cadillac Seville sedan with white leather seats, an HT-4100 135 bhp 4.1 liter/249 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$6,000. You see many of the closely-related eighties Eldorado coupes at auction, but it is rare to see a Seville, with its polarizing styling.
1984 Cadillac Seville, linked from Barrett-Jackson’s website.
  • 1988 blue Cadillac Eldorado coupe with blue cloth/leather seats, an HT-4500 155 bhp 4.5 liter/273 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 58,000 miles—$4,700
  • 1980 petrol blue metallic Porsche 928 coupe with tan leather seats, a 231 bhp 4.5 liter/273 cubic inch V8 with Bosch fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 64,000 miles—$15,500
  • 1983 silver Datsun 280ZX hatchback coupe with silver cloth seats, an L28E 145 bhp 2.8 liter/168 cubic inch inline six with Bosch L-Jetronic fuel injection, and an automatic—$7,000
  • 1986 red Chevrolet Corvette convertible with a white top, red leather seats, an L98 240 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$7,500
  • 1988 white Chevrolet Corvette hatchback coupe with blue leather seats, an L98 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 65,000 miles—$6,500
  • 1985 red Chevrolet Corvette hatchback coupe with medium gray leather seats, an L98 230 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, the Doug Nash 4+3 manual, and 21,000 miles—$9,000
  • 1985 green Chevrolet C10 custom pickup truck with a black bench seat, a 383 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$14,500
  • 1982 silver Chevrolet Corvette coupe with silver seats, an L83 Cross-Fire 200 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with throttle body fuel injection, and an automatic—$13,000
  • 1987 black Chevrolet K5 Blazer custom SUV with gray seats, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$10,000
  • 1988 white Chevrolet Corvette 35th Anniversary Edition hatchback coupe with white leather seats, an L98 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, the Doug Nash 4+3 manual, and 66,000 miles—$12,500
  • 1980 white GMC Jimmy custom pickup truck with burgundy cloth seats, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$24,000
  • 1985 red Chevrolet Corvette hatchback coupe with medium gray leather seats, an L98 230 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 987 miles—$15,000
  • 1988 atlantic blue Ford Mustang ASC McClaren convertible with a blue top, beige seats, a 225 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch with fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 40,000 miles—$9,000
  • 1988 red Chevrolet C1500 custom pickup truck with a red interior, a 383 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$13,000
  • 1985 black Jeep Scrambler custom pickup truck with red seats, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and a five-speed manual—$24,000
  • 1980 silver Chevrolet Camaro Z28 coupe with blue cloth seats, an LM1 190 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with a Rochester four-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 79,000 miles—$17,000
  • 1980 silver Chevrolet Camaro Z28 custom coupe with black leather seats, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, an automatic, and 26,000 miles—$40,000
  • 1987 black Buick Grand National coupe with black/gray cloth seats, a 245 bhp LC2 3.8 liter/231 cubic inch V6 with turbocharging and fuel injection, an automatic, and 13,000 miles—$35,000
  • 1984 brown/gold two-tone GMC K10 Fall Guy custom pickup truck with a tan bench seat, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$50,000 indicates to me that Lee Majors still has a following.
  • 1984 red Chevrolet Corvette hatchback coupe with red leather seats, an L83 Cross-Fire 205 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with throttle body fuel injection, the Doug Nash 4+3 manual, and 2,900 miles—$11,500
  • 1983 blue/silver two-tone Chevrolet Suburban mild custom SUV with a blue cloth bench seat, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$20,500
  • 1987 white Chevrolet Corvette convertible with a white top, red leather seats, an L98 240 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 25,000 miles—$9,500
  • 1984 chrome (yes) Chevrolet K5 Blazer custom SUV with cream seats, a 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$22,000
  • 1987 porcelain white Rolls-Royce Silver Spur sedan with camel leather seats, a 6.75 liter/412 cubic inch V8 with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, and an automatic—$12,500

Wednesday, January 17th:

  • 1986 silver Subaru Brat pickup truck with black/gray cloth seats, an EA-81 73 bhp 1.8 liter/109 cubic inch flat four, a four-speed manual, and 43,000 miles—$12,000
  • 1980 blue Datsun 280ZX hatchback coupe with a blue interior, an L28E 132 bhp 2.8 liter/168 cubic inch inline six with Bosch L-Jetronic fuel injection, and a five-speed manual—$5,500
  • 1986 tan Mazda B2000 SE pickup truck with a tan cloth bench seat, an 86 bhp 2.0 liter/122 cubic inch inline four with a Mikuni two-barrel carburetor, a five-speed manual, and 1,900 miles—$19,000
  • 1981 yellow Checker Marathon very custom (it has working beer taps) sedan with a black vinyl bench seat, a 3.6 liter V6, and an automatic—$7,000
  • 1986 white Pontiac Fiero GT custom coupe with tan cloth seats, a 511 cubic inch V8 with Holley four-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—$15,500
  • 1984 red Chevrolet Camaro custom hatchback coupe with black/red seats, a 383 cubic inch V8 with supercharger, and an automatic—$14,500
  • 1986 white Chevrolet K5 Blazer Silverado SUV with red cloth seats, a 160 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with Rochester four-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 45,000  miles—$14,500
  • 1987 white Buick Regal Limited coupe with burgundy cloth seats, a 245 bhp LC2 3.8 liter/231 cubic inch V6 with turbocharging and fuel injection, an automatic, and 33,000 miles—$20,000 for this interesting car
  • 1987 green Jeep CJ-5 custom SUV with black vinyl seats, a 4.0 liter inline six, and a five-speed manual—$9,000
  • 1986 red Ford Mustang GT hatchback coupe with medium gray cloth seats, a Windsor 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 3,900 miles—$30,000
  • 1987 tan AM General Humvee SUV with a tan interior, a 6.2 liter diesel V8, and an automatic—$19,000
  • 1987 tan AM General Humvee SUV with a tan interior, a 6.2 liter diesel V8, and an automatic—at $13,000, why the difference from the previous car?
  • 1987 white Toyota pickup truck with a gray bench seat, an inline four, and a five-speed manual transmission—$16,500
  • 1983 light blue metallic/frost white two-tone Chevrolet K1500 Silverado pickup truck with a blue custom cloth bench seat, an LS9 165 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch engine with Rochester four-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and a lift kit—$25,000
  • 1986 bright red Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z hatchback coupe with black cloth seats, an LB9 215 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 17,000 miles—$20,000
  • 1987 black Buick Grand National coupe with black/gray cloth seats, a 245 bhp LC2 3.8 liter/231 cubic inch V6 with turbocharging and fuel injection, an automatic, and 23,000 miles—$29,000
  • 1985 white Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z hatchback coupe with gray cloth seats, an LB9 215 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 1,000 miles—$20,000
  • 1985 silver/green two-tone Land Rover Defender 90 custom SUV with black/green seats, an 85 bhp 2.5-liter diesel inline four with a turbocharger, and a five-speed manual—$20,000
  • 1986 green AM General Humvee SUV with a green interior, a 6.2 liter diesel V8, an automatic, and non-functional machine gun—$40,000
  • 1987 black Buick Grand National coupe with black/gray cloth seats, a 245 bhp LC2 3.8 liter/231 cubic inch V6 with turbocharging and fuel injection, an automatic, and 7,400 miles—$39,000

Thursday, January 18th:

  • 1986 red Chevrolet custom pickup truck with a burgundy cloth bench seat, a 502 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$21,500
  • 1980 brilliant silver Mercedes-Benz 450SL convertible with gray leather seats, a 180 bhp 4.5 liter/276 cubic inch V8 with Bosch Jetronic fuel injection, and an automatic—$9,500
  • 1981 silver metallic/charcoal metallic two-tone Chevrolet Corvette coupe with black leather seats, an L81 190 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with Rochester Quadrajet four-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 3,200 miles—$12,000
  • 1985 red Porsche 944 coupe with black leather seats, a 150 bhp 2.5 liter/151 cubic inch inline four with fuel injection, and a five-speed manual—$8,000 hammer price
  • 1985 black Chevrolet K20 Scottsdale pickup truck with a charcoal cloth bench seat, an LS9 165 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch engine with Rochester four-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—$30,000
  • 1985 red Jeep CJ-7 mild custom SUV with a black interior, a 4.2 liter/258 cubic inch inline six, and a four-speed manual—$18,500
  • 1984 champagne metallic with woodgrain Jeep Grand Wagoneer SUV with nutmeg leather seats, a 144 bhp 5.9 liter/360 cubic inch V8 with Motorcraft 2-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 84,000 miles—$40,000
  • 1981 white Chevrolet Camaro Z28 coupe with silver custom cloth seats, an LG4 165 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with a Rochester M4ME four-barrel carburetor, a four-speed manual, and 2,600 miles—$28,000
  • 1982 light bronze metallic GMC c20 Sierra pickup truck with a mahogany vinyl bench seat, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and a four-speed manual—$25,000
  • 1986 doeskin tan Chevrolet Scottsdale crew cab pickup truck with saddle tan vinyl bench seats, an LE8 240 bhp 7.4 liter/454 cubic V8 with a Rochester Mod-Quad four-barrel carburetor, and a four-speed manual—$21,000
  • 1981 moonlight blue Jeep CJ-5 SUV with blue seats, a 102 bhp 4.2 liter/258 cubic inch inline six with a Carter two-barrel carburetor, a four-speed manual, and 1,700 miles—$40,000
  • 1987 wincot bordeaux Mercedes-Benz 230 GE SUV with gray seats, an M102 123 bhp 2.3 liter/140 cubic inch inline four with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, and 53,000 miles—$50,000
1988 Mercedes-Benz 230 GE, linked from Barrett-Jackson’s website.
  • 1981 stainless steel DeLorean DMC-12 coupe with gray leather seats, a 130 bhp 2.8 liter/173 cubic inch V6 with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 624 miles—$57,000
  • 1986 orange Porsche 930 Turbo custom coupe with black seats, a 3.3 liter flat six, a four-speed manual, and 120,000 miles—$100,000
  • 1985 black Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS very custom aero coupe with black cloth seats, a 415 bhp 383 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$100,000 for this charity car.

Friday, January 19th:

  • 1980 sky blue Toyota Land Cruiser BJ41 with black seats, a 2B 93 bhp 3.2 liter diesel inline four, and a four-speed manual—$40,000
  • 1988 yellow Porsche 911 Carrera custom convertible with yellow/black leather seats, a 3.2 liter inline with a Paxton supercharger, and a five-speed manual—$50,000
  • 1984 red Ferrari 308 GTS coupe with black leather seats, a 205 bhp 2.9 liter/179 cubic inch V8 with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, a five-speed manual—$57,000
  • 1981 black Ferrari 308 GTBi coupe with black leather seats, a 205 bhp 2.9 liter/179 cubic inch V8 with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, a five-speed manual—$56,000
  • 1988 red Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Skoal Bandit racing car—$77,000 for this short-lived but winning funny car.

Saturday, January 20th:

  • 1986 red Ferrari 328 GTS coupe with a black leather interior, a 260 bhp 3.2 liter/194 cubic inch V8 with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, and a five-speed manual—$76,000
  • 1989 apricot beige Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet with mahogany leather seats, a 282 bhp 3.3 liter/201 cubic inch flat six with turbocharging and fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 22,000 miles—$90,000
1989 Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet, linked from Barrett-Jackson’s website.
  • 1987 black Buick Regal GNX coupe with black/gray cloth seats, an LC2 276 bhp 3.8 liter/231 cubic inch V6 with turbocharging and fuel injection, an automatic, and 2,600 miles—$95,000
  • 1989 baltic blue Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet with a blue top, linen leather seats, a 282 bhp 3.3 liter/201 cubic inch flat six with turbocharging and fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 50,000 miles—$120,000 tell me that baltic blue equals apricot beige plus 28,000 miles plus $30,000.
  • 1987 black Buick Regal GNX coupe with black/gray cloth seats, an LC2 276 bhp 3.8 liter/231 cubic inch V6 with turbocharging and fuel injection, an automatic, and 11,000 miles—$115,000 for car #003.
  • 1988 white Chevrolet Corvette 35th Anniversary Edition hatchback coupe with white leather seats, an L98 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$350,000 for this charity car definitely sets an all-time record for a 1988 Corvette.
  • 1989 red Porsche 911 Turbo coupe with black leather seats, a 282 bhp 3.3 liter/201 cubic inch flat six with turbocharging and fuel injection, a five-speed manual, the factory slant-nose option, and 18,000 miles—$160,000

Sunday, January 21st:

  • 1989 bright blue Chevrolet Camaro RS convertible with a black top, gray cloth seats, a 170 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with a Rochester E4ME four-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 54,000 miles—$7,500
  • 1982 black Pontiac Firebird Trans Am custom coupe with tan seats, a 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$28,500
  • 1988 white Ford Bronco XLT SUV with tan cloth seats, a Windsor 210 bhp 5.8 liter/351 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$18,500
  • 1987 black Buick Grand National coupe with black/gray cloth seats, a 245 bhp LC2 3.8 liter/231 cubic inch V6 with turbocharging and fuel injection, an automatic, and 5,800 miles—$41,000
  • 1982 black Ford Mustang GT hatchback coupe with charcoal cloth seats, a Windsor 157 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with a Motorcraft 356CFM two-barrel carburetor, a four-speed manual, and 12,000 miles—$20,000
1982 Ford Mustang GT with a dealer installed stripe kit, linked from the Barrett-Jackson web site.
  • 1983 black Ford Mustang GT hatchback coupe with black cloth seats, a Windsor 175 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with a Holley 4180 four-barrel carburetor, a five-speed manual, and 6,300 miles—$30,000
  • 1983 medium charcoal metallic Ford Mustang GT convertible with a black top, black cloth seats, a Windsor 175 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with a Holley 4180 four-barrel carburetor, a five-speed manual, and 15,000 miles—$18,000
  • 1983 black Ford Mustang GT convertible with a black top, black cloth seats, a Windsor 175 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with a Holley 4180 four-barrel carburetor, a five-speed manual, and 8,100 miles—$20,000
  • 1984 medium charcoal metallic Ford Mustang GT hatchback coupe with black cloth seats, a Windsor 175 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with a Holley 4180 four-barrel carburetor, a five-speed manual, and 17,000 miles—$17,000
  • 1984 oxford white Ford Mustang Anniversary Edition G.T. 350 convertible with a white top, canyon red cloth seats, a Windsor 175 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with a Holley 4180 four-barrel carburetor, a five-speed manual, and 1,400 miles—$28,000
  • 1985 medium charcoal metallic Ford Mustang GT convertible with a black top, charcoal cloth seats, a Windsor 210 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with a Holley four-barrel carburetor, a five-speed manual, and 7,600 miles—$18,000
  • 1986 black Ford Mustang SVO hatchback coupe with charcoal leather seats, a Lima 200 bhp 2.3 liter/140 cubic inch inline four with turbocharging and fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 3,100 miles—$30,000
  • 1987 white Ford Mustang GT convertible with a white top, white leather seats, a Windsor 225 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$25,000
  • 1988 black Ford Mustang ASC McClaren convertible with a black top, gray leather seats, a 225 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch with fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 16,000 miles—$25,000
  • 1989 shadow blue metallic Ford Mustang GT hatchback coupe with titanium lower cladding, medium gray cloth seats, a Windsor 225 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 5,400 miles—$25,00
  • 1982 black Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 hatchback coupe with camel cloth seats, an LG4 145 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with Rochester E4ME four-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 10,000 miles—$16,000
  • 1984 black Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 hatchback coupe with gray cloth/vinyl seats, an L69 190 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with Rochester E4ME four-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 15,000 miles—$17,500
  • 1984 gray Peugeot 205 T16 race car with gray/black interior, a 197 bhp 1.8 liter/108 cubic inch engine with turbocharger, a five-speed manual, and 1,400 miles—$170,000 for this rally car that General Motors acquired in the eighties.
  • 1984 gray Peugeot 205 T16 race car with gray/black interior, a 197 bhp 1.8 liter/108 cubic inch engine with turbocharger, a five-speed manual, and 9,900 miles—$133,000

This auction featured a lot of Chevrolets, Ford Mustangs, and Porsches. What do you think of this year’s results?

1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am

Every year I do a retro CD for the holidays that goes to friends and family. Whatever expertise in popular music that I do have is from the eighties, so I go forward one year in that decade—that means that this year I’m doing 1988. There’s a story behind every year’s CD, and this one involved a 1985 Trans Am. So, I decided I would draw a 1985 Trans Am dashboard and thus this blog post.

“The most serious piece of machinery we put on the road.”

Updates for the 1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am included a restyled nose with built-in fog lamps, new taillights, fake hood louvers replacing the traditional power bulge, and full rocker and quarter panel extensions. A new WS6 suspension package was made available for the Trans Am, which included gas pressurized shocks and 16-inch wheels with P245/50VR16 Goodyear “Gatorback” tires for a $664 price tag. Inside, all gages now had graph patterned backgrounds, and a new UT4 “Touch-Control” optional stereo was available.

1985 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am dashboard.

For 1985, the standard Trans Am powertrain was a 165 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with a Rochester four-barrel carburetor paired with a five-speed manual transmission. The top of the line engine was the $695 LB9 fuel injected 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8, with 205 bhp—but that was only available with a four-speed automatic transmission, yielding a zero to sixty time of about 7.5 seconds. If you wanted the five-speed manual transmission, the best engine choice available on the Trans Am was the 190 bhp H.O. V8 with a four-barrel carburetor.

Mileage with the standard powertrain was 15 city/24 highway by the standards of the day (14/22 by 2017 standards). With a 15.9-gallon fuel tank, a Trans Am owner could expect a range of between 255 and 280 miles with a 10% fuel reserve.

Standard exterior and mechanical equipment on the $11,113 Trans Am (about $26,000 in today’s dollars and close to what a base 2018 Camaro costs) included power brakes (front disc/rear drum), hidden electronically-controlled halogen headlamps, dual sport mirrors, an all-glass rear hatch, a rear deck lid spoiler, and P215/65R15 steel-belted radial tires (still an easily available size) on “deep-dish” 15 x 7 wheels. Inside, reclining front bucket seats and side window defoggers were included.

Options included T-tops ($825), a louvered rear sunshield ($210), air conditioning ($630), Recaro bucket seats ($636), and cruise control ($175).

Trans Am page from the 1985 Pontiac brochure, linked from the Old Car Manual Project’s amazing brochures pages.

The 1985 Trans Am sold reasonably well, with 44,028 sold—about 46% of total Firebird sales. Third-generation Firebirds have a strong following, and 1985 Trans Ams make regular appearances in the Hemming’s Motor News classifieds. As I write this in December 2017, there’s a dark blue LB9-equipped car for sale for $5,850. According to Hagerty’s valuation tools, all the money for a 1985 Trans Am in #1/Concours condition is $21,000, with a far more typical #3/Good car going for $8,000.

Please make mine black, please—I think.

1989 Cadillac Sedan deVille

For unclear reasons, one, but only one, of the supermarkets in my area often has interesting eighties cars parked outside. Today, despite the snow on the ground, there was a 1989 Cadillac Sedan deVille on “display” with classic car tags—good enough reason for this blog entry.

“… the definitive full-size luxury car”

Cadillac’s Sedan deVille was substantially revised for 1989, marking the first time that it had been “up-sized” for almost two decades. Overall length increased by nearly nine inches, while the wheelbase increased by three inches. The styling of this C-body was more in the traditional Cadillac vein than the 1985-1988 cars, with vertical blades in the rear that somewhat resembled the fins of previous decades. Changes extended to the interior, with more comfortable seats and more room in the rear compartment. New options included a heated windshield defogger ($250) and a Delco-Bose stereo with compact disc player ($872).

Standard power for the front-wheel-drive Sedan deVille continued to be the transverse-mounted HT-4500 155 bhp 4.5 liter/273 cubic inch V8 with throttle-body fuel injection paired with a Turbo Hydramatic 4T60 four-speed automatic transmission. 0-60 mph took about 10 seconds in the 3,470-pound car. Mileage was 17 city/25 highway by the standards of the day (15/23 by today’s standards)—with an 18-gallon gas tank, a deVille owner could expect a range of about 310 to 340 miles with a 10% fuel reserve.

Standard exterior and mechanical equipment on the $25,760 Sedan deVille (about $52,900 in today’s dollars) included tungsten-halogen headlamps, power rack-and-pinion steering, power brakes, four-wheel independent suspension, and P205/7oR15 tires on 15-inch wheels. Inside, a Sedan deVille was well equipped: air conditioning, six-way power driver’s seat, tilt and telescope steering wheel, cruise control, power side mirrors, power windows (including an express-down driver’s side window), power door locks, and an AM/FM stereo with cassette player were all standard.

Exterior and mechanical options for the 1989 Sedan deVille included anti-lock brakes ($749), aluminum alloy wheels ($480), Astroroof ($1,355), and rear window defogger ($270). Inside a theft deterrent system ($225), leather seating areas ($560), and digital information cluster ($250) were available.

Sedan deVille pages from the 1989 Cadillac brochure

Reviews of the revised Sedan deVille were generally good, and it sold well. Cadillac shipped 122,693, making it by far Cadillac’s most successful model for the year—the rear-wheel-drive D-body Brougham was a distant second place with 28,926.

According to Hagerty’s valuation tools, all the money for a 1989 Sedan deVille in #1/Concours condition is $5,400, with a far more typical #3/Good car going for a mere $2,800 (only the top-of-the-line Allantés do well among late eighties Cadillacs). This generation of deVilles does maintain a presence in the Hemming’s Motor News classifieds and on eBay Motors. As I write this in December 2017, there’s a black 1991 with 89,000 miles for sale, asking $10,300.

Make mine Medium Garnet Red Metallic, please. Another C-body I have covered in this blog is the 1985 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency sedan.

Eighties Cars at the 2017 Mecum Kansas City

Mecum’s late November/early December auction in Kansas City marks what I see as the end of the North American auto action season. I’ll concentrate on the reasonably stock 1980s cars (and a few trucks) that sold (remember that Mecum auctions are not “no reserve” auctions—a white 1987 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS Aerocoupe with burgundy cloth seats and 29,000 miles was a no sale bid up to $14,500) and add some of my opinions. Eighties vehicles were about 9% of the 260 vehicle lots sold in this auction.

Thursday, November 30th:

  • 1986 radient silver/crimson red two-tone Chrysler Fifth Avenue sedan with red velvet cloth seats, a 140 bhp 5.2 liter/318 cubic inch V8 with Carter two-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 12,000 miles—$7,o00 hammer price for this car that was somewhat of a relic even when it was new.
1986 Chrysler Fifth Avenue sedan, linked from Mecum’s website.
  • 1980 black MG MGB convertible with a black top, tan seats, a 63 bhp 1.8 liter/110 cubic inch inline four with Zenith 175CD5T carburetor, a four-speed manual, and 17,000 miles—$9,000. Suddenly, late MGBs are coming up for auction.
  • 1986 red TVR 280i convertible with a black top, beige seats, a Cologne 160 bhp 2.8 liter/170 cubic inch V6 with Bosch fuel injection, a four-speed manual, and 45,000 miles—$6,750
  • 1986 white GMC C1500 High Sierra pickup truck with a beige cloth bench seat, a 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$5,750
  • 1986 white Ford Mustang GT convertible with black top, red cloth seats, a Windsor 225 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 64,000 miles—$7,250
  • 1987 dark gray metallic/titanium two-tone Ford Mustang GT coupe with gray cloth seats, a Windsor 225 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 33,000 miles. At $16,000 the first vehicle in this auction to meet my criteria for 1980s collectability of original cars or trucks: selling for equal to or above its original base list price. I’ll mark these vehicles in bold green.
  • 1980 orange Chevrolet Camaro Z28 coupe with black vinyl seats, an LM1 190 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with a Rochester four-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—$20,000
  • 1980 le mans blue Chevrolet Corvette mild custom (color is not original) coupe with doeskin leather seats, an L48 190 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with Rochester Quadrajet four-barrel carburetor, and a four-speed manual—$10,000
  • 1981 silver metallic Chevrolet Corvette coupe with blue cloth seats, an L81 190 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with Rochester Quadrajet four-barrel carburetor, an automatic, and 51,000 miles—$12,000

Friday, December 1st:

  • 1980 ivory Mercedes-Benz 450SL convertible with camel leather seats, a 180 bhp 4.5 liter/276 cubic inch V8 with Bosch Jetronic fuel injection, an automatic, and Epsilon aftermarket wheels—$6,250
  • 1987 rosewood (I think it is medium rosewood—Cadillac offered light, medium, and dark rosewood in 1987) Cadillac Eldorado coupe with rosewood leather seats, an HT-4100 170 bhp 4.1 liter/249 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 35,000 miles—$9,500 is all the money for a 1987 Eldorado according to Hagerty’s valuation tools.
1987 Cadillac Eldorado coupe, linked from Mecum’s website.
  • 1988 red Pontiac Fiero GT coupe with gray cloth seats, an L44 135 bhp 2.8 liter/173 cubic inch V6 with fuel injection, and 500 miles—$19,500 is evidently the price of a brand new Fiero GT in 2017.
  • 1988 black Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z hatchback coupe with gray cloth seats, an LB9 215 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$10,000
  • 1980 red Chevrolet Camaro Z28 custom coupe with tan seats, a 6.3 liter/383 cubic inch V8, and a five-speed manual—$17,000
  • 1986 red Chevrolet Corvette hatchback coupe with red leather seats, an L98 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch with fuel injection, an automatic, and 65,000—$6,000
  • 1987 red Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z hatchback coupe with red leather seats, an L98 230 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 23,000 miles—$19,500
  • 1986 red Nissan 300ZX hatchback coupe with black leather seats, a VG30E 160 bhp 3.0 liter/181 cubic inch V6 with fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 81,000 miles—$6,000. 300ZXs are starting to show up at auction but aren’t exactly selling for big money.

Saturday, December 2nd:

  • 1989 red Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z hatchback coupe with gray cloth seats, an LB9 215 bhp 5.0 liter/305 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 39,000 miles—$15,000
  • 1988 red Chevrolet Silverado mild custom pickup truck with a red cloth bench seat, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$9,000
  • 1987 rosso corsa Ferrari Testarossa coupe with beige leather seats, a 380 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V12 with Bosch fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 36,000 miles—$87,000 for this Ferrari in the most wanted color combination.
1987 Ferrari Testarossa coupe, linked from Mecum’s website.
  • 1982 silver beige Chevrolet Corvette Collector Edition hatchback coupe with silver beige leather seats, a 200 bhp L83 Cross-Fire 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with throttle body fuel injection, an automatic, and 64,000 miles—$12,000
  • 1981 solar gold Pontiac Firebird Trans Am coupe with camel tan cloth seats, an unidentified V8 (could be a Pontiac 4.9 or a Chevrolet 5.0) with a four-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—$15,500
  • 1985 silver Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole coupe with black leather seats, a 230 bhp 2.9 liter/179 cubic inch V8 with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, and a five-speed manual—$48,000
  • 1985 black Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS custom coupe with maroon cloth seats, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and a five-speed manual—$12,500

Eighties Chevrolets were heavily represented in this auction—almost 45% of the lots from that decade. What do you think of these results?

1980 Ford Thunderbird

“New Thunderbird elegance in a new size …”

To me, the 1980 Ford Thunderbird was one of those “why?” cars, though the competitive drivers were obvious. The third Ford based on the “Fox” platform (the Fairmont and the Mustang had come first), the eighth generation ‘bird was of one of the most radically downsized automobiles in the North American auto industry. In comparison to its 1979 predecessor, the base 1980 Thunderbird was 17 inches shorter and 900 pounds lighter.

Standard power for 1980 was a Windsor 118 bhp 4.2 liter/255 cubic inch V8 with a Motorcraft two-barrel carburetor paired with a SelectShift three-speed automatic transmission. Powertrain upgrades were available: buyers could specify a $150 131 bhp 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with a two-barrel carburetor and could then add a $133 automatic overdrive transmission (with that engine only).

With the standard powertrain, 0-60 took about 15 seconds in the 3,100-pound car—the best powertrain combination dropped that time to a far more respectable 12 seconds. Mileage was 18 city/26 highway by the standards of the day—with a 17.5-gallon gas tank, a Thunderbird owner could expect a range of about 345 miles with a 10% fuel reserve.

Standard exterior and mechanical equipment on the $6,816 base Thunderbird (about $22,400 in today’s dollars) included variable ratio power rack-and-pinion steering, power brakes, Thunderbird hood ornament with color-coordinated insert, full wheel covers, and P185/75R x 14 black sidewall tires. Inside, a tweed cloth-and-vinyl Flight Bench seat, a day/night inside mirror, an electric clock, and an AM radio were all standard.

Moving up to the $10,424 Town Landau (approximately $34,200 now) added a lot of equipment, including cast aluminum wheels, dual remote control mirrors, interval windshield wipers, velour cloth split front bench seat, six-way power driver’s seat, SelectAire air conditioning, power windows, power lock group, tilt steering wheel, and an AM/FM stereo radio.

The top of the line Silver Anniversary edition ($12,172 then, $39,900 now) added the 4.9 liter engine, the automatic overdrive transmission, Keyless Entry System, a patterned luxury cloth split front bench seat, leather-wrapped steering wheel, fingertip speed control, a power antenna, and turbine-spoke cast aluminum wheels.

Options included a power-operated moonroof ($219), electronic information cluster ($275-$313), and leather upholstery ($349).

Two pages from the 1980 Ford Thunderbird brochure, linked from the Old Car Manual Project’s amazing brochures section.

To say the market was not ready for the 1980 Thunderbird is a distinct understatement. Despite a much better level of standard equipment, the Thunderbird was only five inches longer than the plebian Fairmont. Sales of Ford’s halo model collapsed: dropping from 284,141 in 1979 to 156,803 in 1979, and losing almost a full percentage point of sales during a year when none of the main General Motors competitors in the personal luxury coupe market had more than a facelift.

It would get worse in the following two years: 86,693 in 1981 and 45,142 in 1982. By 1982, the Thunderbird was being handily outsold by all four of the mid-size GM coupes: Buick Regal, Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Oldsmobile Cutlass, and Pontiac Grand Prix. It would take the next Thunderbird design in 1983 to redress this balance.

According to Hagerty’s valuation tools, all the money for a 1980 Thunderbird Silver Anniversary in #1/Concours condition is $13,400, with a far more typical #3/Good car going for $5,000. This generation of Thunderbirds maintains some presence in the Hemming’s Motor News classifieds and on eBay Motors. As I write this in November 2017, there’s a black/silver two-tone 1980 with 85,000 miles for sale in Germany. The price: $12,800.

1983 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe

A recent query about whether I had done a write-up on a Thunderbird Turbo Coupe compelled me to update this post written a few years ago, changing it enough to consider it a new entry.

“Ford presents a dramatic new balance of form and function.”

The aerodynamic styling of Ford’s 1983 Thunderbird was a breath of fresh air and a substantial change from the boxy and unloved eighth-generation 1980-1982 models, though the underlying components remained the Fox platform. For 1983, the Thunderbird came in base, Heritage, and Turbo Coupe models.

The Turbo Coupe featured Ford’s Lima 142 bhp 2.3 liter/140 cubic inch inline four with Bosch L-Jetronic fuel injection and a Garrett turbocharger and came with a standard five-speed manual transmission. Road & Track recorded a 0-60 time of 9.7 seconds in a Turbo Coupe that weighed 3,420 pounds as tested. Ford’s new coupe didn’t just look aerodynamic—the drag coefficient was a very competitive 0.35. Fuel economy ratings for the Turbo Coupe were 21 city/33 highway by the standards of the day (17/24 by today’s standards). With an 18.0-gallon fuel tank, a Turbo Coupe owner could expect a range of between 330 and 435 miles with a 10% reserve—decent for a mid-size performance coupe in the early to mid-1980s.

The $11,790 Turbo Coupe is about $29,700 in today’s dollars and about what a 2018 Mustang EcoBoost Premium Fastback (also with a turbocharged 2.3 liter inline four) costs. Standard exterior and mechanical features on the Turbo Coupe included variable ratio power rack-and-pinion steering, power brakes, power mirrors, a Traction-Lok limited-slip differential, Marchal foglamps, and Goodyear Eagle HR 205/70R-14 tires (a size still readily available) on 14-inch x 5.5-inch cast aluminum wheels. Inside, all Turbo Coupe buyers got a leather-wrapped steering wheel, articulated seats, and an AM/FM stereo radio. Options included front cornering lamps ($68), tilt steering ($105), power door locks ($172), and a premium sound system ($179).

Two pages from the 1983 Ford Thunderbird brochure, linked from the Old Car Manual Project’s amazing brochures pages.

Reviews were quite good—Road & Track‘s tagline was “An enthusiast’s Bird comes soaring back”—and the newly aerodynamic Thunderbird sold well. After dropping down below 50,000 sales for the 1982 model year with the last of the eighth-generation ‘birds, the ninth generation would not see sales of less than 120,000 per year.

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For unclear reasons, Hagerty’s valuation tools do not track any Thunderbird after 1982 (they do track the related Lincoln Continental Mark VII). Thunderbird Turbo Coupes only occasionally show up in the Hemming’s Motor News classifieds—you do see them more often on eBay Motors. Make mine Silver, please.

Eighties Vehicles at the 2017 Mecum Las Vegas

Mecum’s November auction in Las Vegas provided some fodder for commentary. I’ll concentrate on the reasonably stock 1980s cars (and a few trucks) that sold (remember that Mecum auctions are not “no reserve” auctions—a black 1989 Ferrari Testarossa coupe with a tan interior and 4,000 miles was a no sale bid up to $147,500) and add some of my opinions. Eighties vehicles were about 8% of the 450 vehicle lots sold in this auction.

Thursday, November 16th:

  • 1985 red, black, and gold Chevrolet Corvette custom hatchback coupe with gray cloth seats, a 440 bhp 6.3 liter/383 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and a five-speed manual—$8,500 hammer price
  • 1985 black Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible with black leather seats, a 155 bhp 3.8 liter/234 cubic inch V8 with Bosch Jetronic fuel injection, and an automatic—$6,000
  • 1984 red Chevrolet Corvette hatchback coupe with black leather seats, a Cross-Fire 205 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with throttle-body fuel injection, an automatic, and 64,000 miles—$7,500
  • 1989 red Cadillac Allanté convertible with beige leather seats, an HT-4500 200 bhp 4.5 liter/273 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 47,000 miles—$5,500
  • 1983 silver Chevrolet mild custom pickup truck with a blue cloth bench seat, a 7.4 liter/454 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$18,000
  • 1983 tan Chevrolet El Camino custom pickup truck with a tan interior, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$7,500
  • 1982 blue Rolls-Royce Silver Spur sedan with tan leather seats, a 6.75 liter/412 cubic inch V8 with Bosch Jetronic fuel injection, an automatic, and 16,000 miles—$17,000
  • 1984 gold Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible with a hard top, tan leather seats, a 155 bhp 3.8 liter/234 cubic inch V8 with Bosch Jetronic fuel injection, and an automatic—$4,000
  • 1988 midnight blue/aspen blue two-tone GMC Suburban Classic SUV with blue vinyl seats, an L19 230 bhp 7.4 liter/454 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 42,000 miles—$8,500
  • 1981 white Chevrolet Corvette coupe with black leather seats, an L81 190 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with Rochester Quadrajet four-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—$6,500 for one of the last of the St. Louis-built cars
  • 1988 maroon Chevrolet custom van with tan seats, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$20,000
  • 1984 orange Dodge custom van with orange and black seats, a 3.7 liter six, and an automatic—$8,500
  • 1986 blue Ford Econoline custom van with blue cloth seats, a 4.9 liter/302 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$11,000
  • 1989 red Cadillac Allanté convertible with beige leather seats, an HT-4500 200 bhp 4.5 liter/273 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$4,000
  • 1985 white Oldsmobile Toronado Brougham coupe with burgundy cloth seats, a 140 bhp 5.0 liter/307 cubic inch V8 with Rochester four-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—$4,000
  • 1987 silver Cadillac Allanté convertible with a black convertible top, red leather seats, an HT-4100 170 bhp 4.1 liter/249 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$4,000
  • 1988 red Chevrolet S-10 Blazer very custom SUV with red velour seats, a V6 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$3,250
  • 1980 black Dodge custom van with tan seats, a 5.8 liter/360 cubic inch V8, and an automatic—$30,000
  • 1985 burgundy Chevrolet custom pickup truck with a tan cloth bench seat, a 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8, and a four-speed manual—$8,600
  • 1989 red Jaguar XJS coupe with tan leather seats, an HE 262 bhp 5.3 liter/326 cubic inch V12 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 92,000 miles—an ouch! at $3,000
  • 1980 yellow MG MGB convertible with a black interior, a black top, a 63 bhp 1.8 liter/110 cubic inch inline four with Zenith 175CD5T carburetor, a four-speed manual, and 30,000 miles—$4,500
  • 1989 pearl white Toyota Soarer Aerocabin hardtop convertible with gray leather seats, a 7M-GTE 240 bhp 3.0 liter inline six with a turbocharger, and an automatic—$13,500 for perhaps the most interesting eighties vehicle in this auction
1989 Toyota Soarer, linked from Mecum’s website.
  • 1980 burgundy Cadillac Coupe de Ville with a tan interior, a 150 bhp 6.0 liter/368 cubic inch V8 with Rochester 4-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—at $500, this big coupe has lost at least 96% of its original value

Friday, November 17th:

  • 1988 cassis red Porsche 911 Carrera convertible with a black interior, a 217 bhp 3.2 liter/193 cubic inch flat six with fuel injection, and a five-speed manual—$30,000
  • 1981 dark bronze Chevrolet Corvette coupe with camel leather seats, an L81 190 bhp 5.7 liter/350 cubic inch V8 with Rochester Quadrajet 4-barrel carburetor, and an automatic—at $16,500 the first vehicle in this auction to meet my criteria for serious 1980s collectability of original cars or trucks: selling for equal to or above its original base list price. I’ll mark these vehicles in bold green.
1981 Chevrolet Corvette, linked from Mecum’s website.
  • 1986 rosso corsa Ferrari 328 GTS coupe with tan leather seats, an F105B 260 bhp 3.2 liter/195 cubic inch V8 with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 27,000 miles—$72,000
  • 1984 beige Toyota FJ45 Land Cruiser pickup truck with gray seats and a manual transmission—$40,000
  • 1984 beige Cadillac Eldorado coupe with beige leather seats, an HT-4100 135 bhp 4.1 liter/249 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, and an automatic—$14,000
  • 1985 white Cadillac Seville sedan with white tufted leather seats, an HT-4100 135 bhp 4.1 liter/249 cubic inch V8 with fuel injection, an automatic, and 20,000 miles—$13,000

Saturday, November 18th:

  • 1981 black and gold Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SE custom coupe with tan cloth seats, a 7.5 liter/455 cubic inch V8 (that’s why it’s custom) with a four-barrel carburetor a four-speed manual, and 53,000 miles—$27,000
  • 1984 brown Land Rover Defender 110 custom SUV with a black interior, an 85 bhp 2.5-liter diesel inline four with a turbocharger, and a five-speed manual—$67,000
  • 1987 red Land Rover Defender 110 custom SUV with a black interior, a 3.9 liter V8, and a five-speed manual—$71,000
  • 1987 black Buick Regal GNX coupe with black/gray cloth seats, an LC2 276 bhp 3.8 liter/231 cubic inch V6 with turbocharging and fuel injection, an automatic, and 820 miles—$90,000 is between #2/Excellent and #3/Good money according to Hagerty’s valuation tools.
  • 1985 prugna Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole coupe with beige leather seats, a 230 bhp 2.9 liter/179 cubic inch V8 with Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection, a five-speed manual, and 45,000 miles—$43,000 is not much of a deficit for this very unusual color
1985 Ferrari 308 GTS, linked from Mecum’s website.

Eighties Chevrolets were heavily represented in this auction—almost 30% of the lots from that decade, with Cadillacs a distant but unusual second place. What do you think of these results?